The shop is down, does it by any chance have anything to do with this?

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And by this I mean people bitching like children.

This was not ranting. I have marketed as well but of course not as much as you have. I do agree with you that in a couple of weeks this will all go back to normal. However, the purpose of my "ranting" was to prevent these spontaneous and illogical change of prices. Oh, and also, by "ingame investors" I mean the people who pay in USD to buy Toribash items. These are the people who keep this game alive and the recent changes discourage there investments. Btw, I don't use the items forum because I make a server called aikido training and trade there and anyways most of my trades (even buying) is on the market itself pls (imapirate style)
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Redundant: sure there is no guarantee for me not to lose my investment. But, investment x has no guarantee then less people would want to buy it <--- This is not what you want. Btw, my dad trades in EGX 30 for a living now. I know how the stock market works LOL

Hypersphere, lol, 80 lvl trader. So what is your suggestion? Give everyone who owned underpriced items some cash? N I C E

Then quit making stupid statements.

Hypersphere people who buy items for dollars cant support this game they support other marketeeers who are providing that service....

only way to support the game by buying items with cash is to buy the no qi items from the shop....

pls check your facts w o w

If i remember corectly there was a warning on halloween, when all prices dropped.

imapirate: yeh...ok
Insanity: I'm not sure, but that would have been a good thing. That was actually part of my suggestions so that they don't screw up the market, like now...

It's not screwed in any way...considering all "the marketeers'' lost was profit and this was a minot set-back for making more profit.
Change is good, but still, i hope it stays this way, because it's not fun anymore, this is not a game anymore @.@ or is it?

The chart with the Tiers is really useful, thank you for that.

Answering some of the questions:


Because it is in high demand, the question answers itself. If the QI restriction is low it doesn't mean that this item is generally undesired.


No, QI restrictions work as usual. Tier system was introduced just for an easier classification of QI restrictions.


I doubt that making all black/white monochrome colors 10th dan+ items is ever going to work.


Alpha was a complementary color for [Alpha] in the first place, so it can be more expensive just because it is some sort of a collectible color forged specially for one clan and just made public.
Toxic and Quicksilver both have the highest prices among all other items of their tiers. There is absolutely no sense in having a price of 300k for a full set of a color that is accessible to Green Belts.


Exactly this idea was taken as a basis for the change. Previously a player could afford himself either some Gladiator items or nothing until he was green belt or even higher. New prices allow having noticeably more colors to choose from after he got to that belt. I'm not even speaking of Black Belt, when more than a half of colors are accessible (and 1k QI isn't even a half of what most players who stay in the game get after some time).


They are going to stay as they are now, at least for now.


Only 4.4% of items (if we only take colors) require 20k QI. You don't really have to get that much in order to customize your character in the way you want.
And you can always purchase QI from the Torishop.


Yes, it will. The price will be higher and each item will require 10.000 QI.


Obviously you do not know what does a "democratic change" mean by recommending consulting 4 richest players of the community. If we did that, the change would've been rather made in favor of oligarchy rather than "average users".
An average Toribash user doesn't know about forum existence or/and uses Torishop for his purchases rather than Market board.



$18 for one of the most expensive colors in the game was not fine. Especially taken the fact that it was being sold with no QI restriction.
If we convert the price into TC, $18 is less than 28k at official $/TC rate and about 200k at the "black market" rate. Both are way too low.


You will be happy that you got a 5th dan item for TC instead of $27 USD.


Feel free to contact me once your ban is lifted. If you manage to prove that it was borrowed from you (and not transferred to dozens of other people like some of the Azurite Forces from your inventory were), the item will be returned back to you if your friend agrees.


Ironically, Toribash is a fighting game and not an business/economic simulator.
All items are still available to be sold/bought from other users instead of Torishop.


It was down for some minutes due to the server backup.




The reason why there was no public announcement is that it would have just provoked chaotic attempts to sell all the stuff to those who haven't heard of the upcoming update. The rich would have lost less, average users who don't pay that much attention to market-related announcements would have lost more.
Step-by-step price reduction wouldn't make anyone feel better, either. Those who knew which items were going to become cheaper every next moment would have profited by selling them to those who don't. Finally, that would have created the same chaos as a usual announcement.


I also hate pointing out the TOS which everyone agrees with by registering, but it seems that this is the moment when many people forgot them: