I hate whores , I love original people.
Whores are whores and will always be whores.
But uhm , when you bumpmap why not make something awesome?

Enough flaming him. Don't say things like :

Because I'm sick of it.

Also, just because he's not as good as some people, doesn't mean he deserves being flamed, especially when it's totally unhelpful to the whole situation.

If you have nothing nice to say, or you can't give him helpful advice, stfu and gtfo.

NO YOU!
I dont really think he will be good , no offence but taking a car from a site and then saying its yours ?
Not good.
But good that you dont do it anymore =P
But yeah I dont have any advice

Then don't post? What makes you think your opinion is so important anyways.

i need critic to be better!
Doesn't mean you can tell him to stfu.
~Eth

you know what I'm gonna say, try harder :P

it's good that you're expirementing with bumpmaps, but make them relevant to the render. try adding textures to the tori, and use the same texture as the bumpmap, it makes for a pretty good effect.