Originally Posted by Zxan
>what is linux
Also, check this out;
EDIT: God you're thick. http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/
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Ubuntu 13 is coming out in the near future with better Ivy Bridge and Nvidia support. Then it will surely surpass Windows for gaming.
And I am also very happy with the new Linux port of steam. This is a very big step forward.
Last edited by Regent101; Feb 12, 2013 at 09:37 AM.
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12:31 AM - Ciao Time: If one were to devote themselves to a $250 budget with all the cost cutting heavenly possible
12:31 AM - Ciao Time: And built it right
12:32 AM - Ciao Time: It'd be possible, +1 to gorman team
hey guess what i was wrong.
still doesn't make sense for anyone to do though, unless you have the need to maintain superior pc master race status like gorman. i'm not gonna tell my friend who wants to play call of duty to go source pieces for free and dig around looking for free stuff, i'm going to tell him to buy a 250 dollar console that runs stuff the same and works right away with no work required.
"Even if you install windows, probably even you can use it fine vespesi3n, you just have to install steam then buy the games you want, it's super easy, if you gave it a try I'm sure you can do it!"
being condescending really helped solidify your argument, gj
12:31 AM - Ciao Time: And built it right
12:32 AM - Ciao Time: It'd be possible, +1 to gorman team
hey guess what i was wrong.
still doesn't make sense for anyone to do though, unless you have the need to maintain superior pc master race status like gorman. i'm not gonna tell my friend who wants to play call of duty to go source pieces for free and dig around looking for free stuff, i'm going to tell him to buy a 250 dollar console that runs stuff the same and works right away with no work required.
"Even if you install windows, probably even you can use it fine vespesi3n, you just have to install steam then buy the games you want, it's super easy, if you gave it a try I'm sure you can do it!"
being condescending really helped solidify your argument, gj
Last edited by vespesi3n; Feb 12, 2013 at 09:54 AM.
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I have another perspective on the argument relating to 'ease of use.'
Say I'm a new user with a new credit card, average internet, and just enough computer knowledge to follow instructions on the first go.
To buy a PS3 game:
Make PSN account, e-mail verify, punch in credit card details, download system and store updates, navigate through the store, find my game, load the game's page, load checkout, download game at ~400kb/s, install game, download game updates, play.
To buy a Steam game:
Download client, make Steam account, e-mail verify, navigate through store, straight to checkout once finding a game, punch credit card details in, download game at ~1mb/s, install game (w/ components added automatically), play.
They're pretty similar. You could argue that one's interface is far worse or slower once learned, of course, but in the end, the process is equally daunting for someone with zero computer savviness.
This is also assuming a perfect world where hardware and incompatibility is a non-issue. In reality, it always is. For consoles and PC's.
And for fun, to buy a Genesis game:
Walk to Blockbuster, buy game, go home, put into Genesis, turn on, play.
...Modern electronics are clunky.
EDIT:
You do realize that installing Ubuntu on a PS3 after Sony had removed OtherOS is far more difficult and potentially requires more hardware experience than building your own PC, right? Not to mention that even when OtherOS was enabled, by default, it had no access to hardware acceleration and thus couldn't run any PC games more powerful than Quake 3.
So yeah.
Say I'm a new user with a new credit card, average internet, and just enough computer knowledge to follow instructions on the first go.
To buy a PS3 game:
Make PSN account, e-mail verify, punch in credit card details, download system and store updates, navigate through the store, find my game, load the game's page, load checkout, download game at ~400kb/s, install game, download game updates, play.
To buy a Steam game:
Download client, make Steam account, e-mail verify, navigate through store, straight to checkout once finding a game, punch credit card details in, download game at ~1mb/s, install game (w/ components added automatically), play.
They're pretty similar. You could argue that one's interface is far worse or slower once learned, of course, but in the end, the process is equally daunting for someone with zero computer savviness.
This is also assuming a perfect world where hardware and incompatibility is a non-issue. In reality, it always is. For consoles and PC's.
And for fun, to buy a Genesis game:
Walk to Blockbuster, buy game, go home, put into Genesis, turn on, play.
...Modern electronics are clunky.
EDIT:
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
Well that's even easier...
1. Buy PS3
2. Install Ubuntu
3. There we go, you now have a computer with linux that can run the same games as a console.
You do realize that installing Ubuntu on a PS3 after Sony had removed OtherOS is far more difficult and potentially requires more hardware experience than building your own PC, right? Not to mention that even when OtherOS was enabled, by default, it had no access to hardware acceleration and thus couldn't run any PC games more powerful than Quake 3.
So yeah.
Last edited by CiaoTime; Feb 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM.
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
1. Buy PS3
2. Install Ubuntu
3. There we go, you now have a computer with linux that can run the same games as a console.
Can't even install Linux on the PS3 anymore, unless you don't get the update, in which case your PS3 is useless for online gameplay. (Not to mention that Ubuntu wouldn't work as well with the PS3's hardware as the PS3 itself would. . .)
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
> computer cannot in to lounge room
> console cannot on to desk
> computer must the desk with the monitor
> console must the lounge room with the tv
> no other configurations exist, "apparently that's hard to understand"
wtf even is this. I've had a computer hooked up to a tv for the last 10 years. It's nothing to get mad about.
Errgh, unless it's usually used by more than one person, someone would generally want their computer in their own room.
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
> what is steam for linux
> implying linux isn't an OS
How many Steam games actually run natively on Linux? Nowhere near the amount on other operating systems. You'd still have to use Wine for the vast majority of them.
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
> implying the dumb sheep route is better
Well, some consumers do prefer the ease-of-use offered by a console.
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
> implying there's anyone out there that has a console but not a computer
Wut? Of course there are. . .
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
> implying steam for linux doesn't exist
Like I said above. . .
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
> implying we should try and cater to people who are too dumb to build a computer and run it. That's what consoles are for - pay more but get weak hardware and low quality games - but it's easy.
Why shouldn't we? That's a pretty huge market. . .
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
Because PC apparently cannot in to lounge room or wherever you have your giant tv already.
Umm, you said, "tv cannot on to desk", so make up your mind with that bit! D:
I don't think many people want to hook up their computer to their television every time they want to play a game. Unless your desk is close enough to the TV anyway, and you could just hook it up to both a monitor and the TV, which is a pretty neat set-up, but still: "Errgh, unless it's usually used by more than one person, someone would generally want their computer in their own room."
e: I missed an entire page of posts! D:
Last edited by box; Feb 12, 2013 at 03:11 PM.
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