Originally Posted by IceShadow
When people who aren't musicians want to hear music they don't care how hard it is to play music they just want to hear the stuff they like. Hence, the creation of Pop Music. Music designed to make money and get radio play. Artists like Justin Bieber don't sing for the art and meaning, they sing and perform as a business venture and a way to make money. I gurantee you that if there were no money involved in the Music business, many artists out there without talent wouldn't be here today, sadly, this isn't the case.
This is why I hate most rap music now. Not because I'm racist, or because I have a limited taste in music. It's because their lyrics consist of nothing but bitches, money, and cars. That's what the people want to hear about, not government corruption (Rage against the machine). But if they don't want to hear about the fucked up assholes controlling our every move then why do they listen to RATM? Because they are talented. I love it when artist who stand up for something get famous, because they're reaching the goal the set when they started the band. More artist need to sit down and think about why they are starting a music career. If you can't see yourself playing guitar without a dime in your pocket, and remaining happy, then don't commit yourself to the industry.
Again, the majority of listeners are the ones to blame. They are the ones longing for the sound and general theme that rappers and pop artists pump out. There are acceptions of course in listeners are care for deep meaning surrounded by great music. This is where avid rap listeners come into play. The fact is, there are many rappers out there that write for the sheer poetry adn emotion for it and you can't put their genre of music aside just because of the business venture side of rap (money, bitches, clubs).
Same goes for Rock bands. There are still bands that produce a great sound yet use cliches and certain topics to exploit the ability to make music off of their minimal talents.
Same goes for Rock bands. There are still bands that produce a great sound yet use cliches and certain topics to exploit the ability to make music off of their minimal talents.
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Originally Posted by Hyde
No. Talent is a defined word.
Natural aptitude. Not 'skill attained through hard work'.
So some people can't scream better than others?
By better, that could be louder, longer, stronger, etc.
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Originally Posted by JesseBean
This is why I hate most rap music now. Not because I'm racist, or because I have a limited taste in music. It's because their lyrics consist of nothing but bitches, money, and cars. That's what the people want to hear about, not government corruption (Rage against the machine). But if they don't want to hear about the fucked up assholes controlling our every move then why do they listen to RATM? Because they are talented. I love it when artist who stand up for something get famous, because they're reaching the goal the set when they started the band. More artist need to sit down and think about why they are starting a music career. If you can't see yourself playing guitar without a dime in your pocket, and remaining happy, then don't commit yourself to the industry.
They do it for money. Everythings about money,bitches, and cars. You either make it or you dont. Thats why lil wayne joined the industry. Because he thought he was talented andnhe could be the next tupac or biggie. And screaming isn't really a talent unless its like beyonce or singing screaming or whatever.
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Originally Posted by IceShadow
When people who aren't musicians want to hear music they don't care how hard it is to play music they just want to hear the stuff they like.
I listen to my favorite music types and i always try to copy or create my own beat. Whether on my sis's piano or two pencils on a desk. I dont think we just want to hear music to hear music. I think we hear music to have something to relate to or to bob our heads to.
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Originally Posted by Hyde
Talent isn't related to working hard, Talent is a natural aptitude. If I picked up a gun and you picked up a gun for the first time, and I hit you and you died, after you missed, then I am obviously more talented at it then you.
So someone who has never sung a single tone is hence the best artist in the world? If we follow your way at looking at things I'm probably the worlds best pilot as well, cause none has ever proved the other...
Originally Posted by Hyde
Why would I? I like my vocal chords the way they are. Why would I want to ruin them? Look at Corey Taylor, from your slipknot example. He can barely talk, and sounds hoarse 100% of the time.
Yeah, lets take some old faggots then, Keith Richard, Stevie Nicks, Elton John, Mary Travers, Joni Mitchell, Paul McCartney, Philip Bailey, Ozzy Osbourne, Steve Walsh, Bob Dylan, Chaka Khan, Aretha Franklin, Dionne Warwick, James Brown, Bobby Bland, and Wilson Pickett. Now all of these once had a extraordinary good voice, but being a musician is a hard path to walk, just compare them from their good old days to the "pressent" or "latest performance".
Then there are some examples of metal singers as well, just take Disturbed and compare their early music with "Asylum".
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