We, Essence, always pay up if we lost. 5k is a microscopic price to pay. The problem is that I do not see why we must have a rematch when Essence won fair and square. The score was 10-9, and if we had lost, we would have happily paid REM the tc. Also, we cannot control whether the opponent pays for their loses or not (official or unofficial). There is no way we are rematching something we have already won, therefore, since I do not have solid proof, and since REM refuses to accept their lost, we will leave it at that. I will however remember that I cannot expect clans like REM to admit defeat and instead, make fictional excuses for not paying up. Closing.