Yes, I gave up on one too, where I tried to do what Nighend mentioned and start the staff in both hands, but the axis made it very frustrating and that's why I left it open to suggestion if anyone else wanted to attempt it.. as for instagib weapons, I have this trick that involves 2 objects as your blade, 1 for instagib, one for the backing (because there's a difference between double-edged katanas and regular ones) That way if the back hits, your shoulder, for example it wont damage you because the blunt side touched you... I'm actually going to do broadswords in this style next... /gg